Comments on: The Ying Yang Twins on Uptight Assholes, Gays, the Ideal Woman, and Why They Speak for Strippers http://broadrecognition.com/arts/the-ying-yang-twins-on-uptight-assholes-gays-the-ideal-woman-and-why-they-speak-for-strippers/ A Feminist Magazine at Yale Mon, 14 May 2012 03:21:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: pehy http://broadrecognition.com/arts/the-ying-yang-twins-on-uptight-assholes-gays-the-ideal-woman-and-why-they-speak-for-strippers/#comment-7205 pehy Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:00:53 +0000 http://www.broadrecognition.com/?p=793#comment-7205 check it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgHgskVub60 check it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgHgskVub60

]]> By: Dip http://broadrecognition.com/arts/the-ying-yang-twins-on-uptight-assholes-gays-the-ideal-woman-and-why-they-speak-for-strippers/#comment-1629 Dip Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:11:19 +0000 http://www.broadrecognition.com/?p=793#comment-1629 damn, you're good. damn, you’re good.

]]> By: Dip http://broadrecognition.com/arts/the-ying-yang-twins-on-uptight-assholes-gays-the-ideal-woman-and-why-they-speak-for-strippers/#comment-1628 Dip Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:07:46 +0000 http://www.broadrecognition.com/?p=793#comment-1628 AMEN!!! AMEN!!!

]]> By: Some Points http://broadrecognition.com/arts/the-ying-yang-twins-on-uptight-assholes-gays-the-ideal-woman-and-why-they-speak-for-strippers/#comment-1597 Some Points Mon, 24 May 2010 06:26:18 +0000 http://www.broadrecognition.com/?p=793#comment-1597 First, I'm not sure why language is an issue. It's an unedited piece. The "um's" and "er's" were a bit much, but Annie was true to the form of the interview. We wouldn't be discussing this if it had been a filmed interview. They would have made asses of themselves without Annie's help. Second, why is everyone so quick to vilify stripping? Yes, some women are forced to do it because they don't have the same opportunities as Yale-goers, but some do it because they want to. And don't pull the exploitation thing on me. Unless you work for yourself, someone is exploiting your labor. That's right, you are a breed of ho! Perhaps they enjoy the attention or (who'd a thunk) the money! Contrary to popular assumption, I'm sure there are some strippers out there who respect themselves and demand respect from others. It's clear from this interview that the infamous duo despite their we-want-to-inspire-strippers-by-rapping-about-cracking-their-jaws attitude doesn't hold strippers in high esteem. Third, depicting two mediocre rappers as they are does not make someone racist. Though I do know Annie personally and I suspect she's not as tolerant of diversity as she acts. That's said with love. First, I’m not sure why language is an issue. It’s an unedited piece. The “um’s” and “er’s” were a bit much, but Annie was true to the form of the interview. We wouldn’t be discussing this if it had been a filmed interview. They would have made asses of themselves without Annie’s help. Second, why is everyone so quick to vilify stripping? Yes, some women are forced to do it because they don’t have the same opportunities as Yale-goers, but some do it because they want to. And don’t pull the exploitation thing on me. Unless you work for yourself, someone is exploiting your labor. That’s right, you are a breed of ho! Perhaps they enjoy the attention or (who’d a thunk) the money! Contrary to popular assumption, I’m sure there are some strippers out there who respect themselves and demand respect from others. It’s clear from this interview that the infamous duo despite their we-want-to-inspire-strippers-by-rapping-about-cracking-their-jaws attitude doesn’t hold strippers in high esteem. Third, depicting two mediocre rappers as they are does not make someone racist. Though I do know Annie personally and I suspect she’s not as tolerant of diversity as she acts. That’s said with love.

]]> By: 2011 http://broadrecognition.com/arts/the-ying-yang-twins-on-uptight-assholes-gays-the-ideal-woman-and-why-they-speak-for-strippers/#comment-1596 2011 Sun, 09 May 2010 23:05:33 +0000 http://www.broadrecognition.com/?p=793#comment-1596 everyone is operating under the assumption that annie is a racist white girl. maybe annie is black. who knows? maybe you should examine your own white solopsism, haters leaving comments. the ying yang twins said some insightful things and some shockingly mysogynistic things. if you've read any unedited interview, you will know that interviewers always leave in the ums. great interview. everyone is operating under the assumption that annie is a racist white girl. maybe annie is black. who knows? maybe you should examine your own white solopsism, haters leaving comments.

the ying yang twins said some insightful things and some shockingly mysogynistic things. if you’ve read any unedited interview, you will know that interviewers always leave in the ums. great interview.

]]> By: Yale '09 http://broadrecognition.com/arts/the-ying-yang-twins-on-uptight-assholes-gays-the-ideal-woman-and-why-they-speak-for-strippers/#comment-1595 Yale '09 Wed, 05 May 2010 16:32:47 +0000 http://www.broadrecognition.com/?p=793#comment-1595 As you navel-gazers fret about the dilemmas of people with correct grammer interviewing people with incorrect grammar, you would do well to remember that the point of Spring Fling over the past few years (with the exception of 2009) has essentially been role reversal. Highly-educated Yale students get to sing along to musicians who are making music that ends up emphasizing the class difference between audience and performer. The Ying Yang Twins' comments give a good example of this: they're making music for strippers to dance to, music that has nothing to do with Yalies and even less to say to them. It's a joke on both sides, a big mardi-gras when the kings play paupers for a day: egg-head Yalies wave their hands around to statements that would horrify them if spoken by their peers (anyone remember Ludacris asking the ladies in the audience with "clean pussies" to identify themselves, or T.I. jeering at the crowd?), and the performers get to have the last laugh, because Yalies lower their standards to accommodate them: they pander, they condescend. Avinash Gandhi is the biggest panderer of 'em all: do adults need to be congratulated for being "self-aware?" Avinash, you sound relieved that the Twins could speak in complete sentences. Wouldn't want your jesters to embarrass you too much, 'eh? Those of you who are hung up over questions of race and class are absolutely justified, but you're missing the target. It isn't Annie at all (what was she supposed to do, speak with broken grammar just because her subjects did, or re-write their phrases in complete sentences? That they speak with broken grammar is part of the point). It's Yale, it's all of you who congratulate yourselves on listening to rap in the first place, as if you're breaking a cultural barrier. You're all proud for seeing "how the other half lives." Avinash, final question: is the ambiguous "wisdom" that you spoke of the fact that "that shit"--homosexuality--"is a no-go" with the musicians you're so intent on defending? All of you who are picking over the spelling of "ax" and "ask" are hilarious. You're not bothered by the ardent homophobia, the defense of violence against women as educational for women. You're obsessed with calling Yalies out for any slight offense they might give because you hold them to a higher standard than the Ying Yang Twins. Double standards. Pathetic. As you navel-gazers fret about the dilemmas of people with correct grammer interviewing people with incorrect grammar, you would do well to remember that the point of Spring Fling over the past few years (with the exception of 2009) has essentially been role reversal. Highly-educated Yale students get to sing along to musicians who are making music that ends up emphasizing the class difference between audience and performer. The Ying Yang Twins’ comments give a good example of this: they’re making music for strippers to dance to, music that has nothing to do with Yalies and even less to say to them. It’s a joke on both sides, a big mardi-gras when the kings play paupers for a day: egg-head Yalies wave their hands around to statements that would horrify them if spoken by their peers (anyone remember Ludacris asking the ladies in the audience with “clean pussies” to identify themselves, or T.I. jeering at the crowd?), and the performers get to have the last laugh, because Yalies lower their standards to accommodate them: they pander, they condescend. Avinash Gandhi is the biggest panderer of ‘em all: do adults need to be congratulated for being “self-aware?” Avinash, you sound relieved that the Twins could speak in complete sentences. Wouldn’t want your jesters to embarrass you too much, ‘eh?

Those of you who are hung up over questions of race and class are absolutely justified, but you’re missing the target. It isn’t Annie at all (what was she supposed to do, speak with broken grammar just because her subjects did, or re-write their phrases in complete sentences? That they speak with broken grammar is part of the point). It’s Yale, it’s all of you who congratulate yourselves on listening to rap in the first place, as if you’re breaking a cultural barrier. You’re all proud for seeing “how the other half lives.”

Avinash, final question: is the ambiguous “wisdom” that you spoke of the fact that “that shit”–homosexuality–”is a no-go” with the musicians you’re so intent on defending? All of you who are picking over the spelling of “ax” and “ask” are hilarious. You’re not bothered by the ardent homophobia, the defense of violence against women as educational for women. You’re obsessed with calling Yalies out for any slight offense they might give because you hold them to a higher standard than the Ying Yang Twins. Double standards. Pathetic.

]]> By: Really? http://broadrecognition.com/arts/the-ying-yang-twins-on-uptight-assholes-gays-the-ideal-woman-and-why-they-speak-for-strippers/#comment-1594 Really? Mon, 03 May 2010 04:49:12 +0000 http://www.broadrecognition.com/?p=793#comment-1594 No one said that Annie is racist because she doesn't agree with Ying Yang....no one. No one said that Annie is racist because she doesn’t agree with Ying Yang….no one.

]]> By: Really? http://broadrecognition.com/arts/the-ying-yang-twins-on-uptight-assholes-gays-the-ideal-woman-and-why-they-speak-for-strippers/#comment-1593 Really? Mon, 03 May 2010 04:47:29 +0000 http://www.broadrecognition.com/?p=793#comment-1593 Your journalistic bar is set too low for my liking. Her judgment calls were inconsistent and illustrative of bias, as were some her question and word choices. I am glad Annie has so many friends, the support network will really help when she can't get a journalism job (if she's not going into I-banking). Your journalistic bar is set too low for my liking. Her judgment calls were inconsistent and illustrative of bias, as were some her question and word choices.

I am glad Annie has so many friends, the support network will really help when she can’t get a journalism job (if she’s not going into I-banking).

]]> By: Hmm http://broadrecognition.com/arts/the-ying-yang-twins-on-uptight-assholes-gays-the-ideal-woman-and-why-they-speak-for-strippers/#comment-1592 Hmm Mon, 03 May 2010 00:32:15 +0000 http://www.broadrecognition.com/?p=793#comment-1592 This was an interview conducted and transcribed entirely by one person. Extending her to represent Yale feminists as a group (an attempt that is itself offensively simplistic) is absurdly unfounded. This was an interview conducted and transcribed entirely by one person. Extending her to represent Yale feminists as a group (an attempt that is itself offensively simplistic) is absurdly unfounded.

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